Emo Sucks Right?

[fatbastard]

I just don't see this type of music going anywhere.

[PassiveTheory]

Do you mean going anywhere as in "it ISN'T going to ever go away" or as in "it's never going to evolve"?

As far as I'm concerned, Emo's been in the public forefront of music ever since the Cure and the Smiths exploded in the 80s, and even though a significant number of the bands are just mere parodies of those acts, I don't think we've seen the end of Emo music...

[ContraCulture]

I don't even know what the fuck emo is anymore, honestly. What are current popular emo bands? The only clearly emo songs I ever got into were Chloroform Perfume by FATA and Understanding In A Car Crash by Thursday. Come to think of it, I'm not sure that emo ever really got anywhere in the first place.

And you can't really include The Cure and The Smiths, I know we had a bigger argument about this on the Coachella board but I still say until the genre is labeled those acts predate the genre.

[Boourns]

Eyeliner emo

[Alchemy]

I think that when people mean Emo, they don't mean emotional bands like The Cure and The Smiths.

They are talking about the sound of certain bands like Bringing Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessionals... I pretty much include anyone who has a whiney voice.

[annel]

i love TAKING back sunday & brand new.

they are my favorite bands...

[ficklecycle]

Yick.

[fatbastard]

I don't think it's ever going to evolve. What determines something as emo? Sound, words, influences, clothing?

[woogie846]

I don't think it's ever going to evolve. What determines something as emo? Sound, words, influences, clothing?

I'm going to have to say the look, the jadedness of that pop punky sound, a cult following of 12-16 year old girls and their boyfriends that shop at Hot Topic and hang out at the mall with their skateboards even though they don't actually use them to skate, and a lack of knowledge of the instrument that each member of the band plays.

[fatbastard]

I may be speaking out of my element but it's difficult to comprehend that a genre of music is based on clothing. Going back to the music part, I just don't see a clear line in the sand with this type of music. If we all sat in a room listening to John Denver, we might say we were listening to folk or country. I look at Morrissey as "80's" or "alternative". Perhaps because the word is new to me. Just sayin. I want to understand but there does not appear to be a clear cut answer.

[Boourns]

Your hair is...everywhere!

[fatbastard]

I thought ohhh for a minute then I thought ohhhhh. This is not a pretty picture.

[roberto73]

When I think of emo, I automatically think of all this stuff that sounds like punk music made for 14-year-old girls. It started out as stuff like Dashboard Confessional, Saves the Day, Taking Back Sunday, and now encompasses Panic! At the Disco, Brand New, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, that kind of thing.

There's just no way, though, that you can lump bands like The Cure and The Smiths into that genre simply by virtue of the lyrics (which I think would have to be the basis of that decision, since they're so otherwise dissimilar). If you're going to do that, you might as well go ahead and throw Nick Drake and Johnny Cash into the emo pot, too.

Emo just seems to be punk music without an edge, as homogenized and neutered as any boy band, and sung by whiny white guys.

[fatbastard]

When I think of emo, I automatically think of all this stuff that sounds like punk music made for 14-year-old girls. It started out as stuff like Dashboard Confessional, Saves the Day, Taking Back Sunday, and now encompasses Panic! At the Disco, Brand New, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, that kind of thing.

There's just no way, though, that you can lump bands like The Cure and The Smiths into that genre simply by virtue of the lyrics (which I think would have to be the basis of that decision, since they're so otherwise dissimilar). If you're going to do that, you might as well go ahead and throw Nick Drake and Johnny Cash into the emo pot, too.

Emo just seems to be punk music without an edge, as homogenized and neutered as any boy band, and sung by whiny white guys.

Nice explanation. Did you see Nick Cave's performance last week on David Letterman?

[Boourns]

How could this happen to me?

[captncrzy]

Emo is the equivelant of 80's hair metal. It was called metal, but it really wasn't...it was all about glitter and hair and makeup and glam. Emo USED to be the doom and gloom emotional stuff that was The Cure. Those new My Chemial Romance/AFI jackasses are taking over what used to be an underground moody genre.

[psychic friend]

The cure was not emo, they were goth.

[ldkenefick]

when i say something is emo i mean that it's filled with emotion. more sad emotion than any other. haha, bringing back sunday? nice one alchemy. i don't think it will ever evolve either, cause how can one emotion evolve? it can be combined, but never more than what it already is.

[Courtney]

Ya the problem with trying to discuss "emo" is that everyone thinks that it means something different. I like Fugazi and Husker Du if that counts.

[skinnypuppy]

People don't even realize where "emo" came from or how it works. Kids took the term and associated clothing and hair to it, and 'screamy' bands. "Emo" bands like Taking Back Sunday or Silverstein I consider Mall-core, rather than "emo" or whatever. Emo stands for emotional, which is why people consider the smiths, the cure, weezer, and death cab for cutie emo, since theyre very emotional bands.

Thaa thing is ALL music is emotional, so calling anything "emo" is technically wrong, though the kids with crazy hair and dumb clothes take the term and make it hilarious.

In regards to the whole hair treatment of emo, that will fade away with the times. as each month passes, the term "emo" is used less and less. thank goodness.

[cutephase]

what about Joy Division?...talk about emotional...

in high school, i dressed in black and listened to the cure's 'seventeen seconds' + 'pornography' over and over...i can identify with somewhat - but we were called 'goths' or 'punks'
- the new bands who call themselves 'emo' are mostly generic and lame. let them keep the label...

[ldkenefick]

I agree skinnypuppy ... 100% actually ...

[pocket]

Emo bands start with Sunny Day Real Estate for the emo indie rock movement IMO. The Weezer Pinkerton album is another good one. When Chris Dashboard was in Further Seams Forever and before he added a band to Dashboard are other good examples of what emo was labeled as.

Not so much on mallcore or emocore new stuff.

[pwn///ed]

To most people, when someone mentions Brand New, Taking Back Sunday, etc. they automatically think "Emo" when in fact bands such as those are pop-punk, and as for the screaming it is mostly post-hardcore.

The term Emo was created in the 80's when hardcore bands were at their peak in D.C.

And there were many hardcore bands, but there were some that were, in fact, hardcore, but they had more emotion, you can tell by their vocals, and also, the music itself. And from that moment, they came up with a new way to describe the music, and it is indeed, Emo. But Emo is short for "Emotive-Hardcore".

The band that started this movement was Rites Of Spring, the first Emo band, and the forefathers of the genre. More bands appeared on the Emo music scene (for lack of better words) like Embrace, Indian Summer, Swing Kids, A Day In Black And White, etc.
It's always good to know the roots of the music we listen to, it has a huge impact on the way you look at or think about the more modern bands you listen to today, and that's with any genre of music, because all music is emotional in one way or another, but the degree of the emotion portrayed or interpreted is the difference.

And for Screamo, that's a topic for another day...

[pwn///ed]

People don't even realize where "emo" came from or how it works. Kids took the term and associated clothing and hair to it, and 'screamy' bands. "Emo" bands like Taking Back Sunday or Silverstein I consider Mall-core, rather than "emo" or whatever. Emo stands for emotional, which is why people consider the smiths, the cure, weezer, and death cab for cutie emo, since theyre very emotional bands.

Thaa thing is ALL music is emotional, so calling anything "emo" is technically wrong, though the kids with crazy hair and dumb clothes take the term and make it hilarious.

In regards to the whole hair treatment of emo, that will fade away with the times. as each month passes, the term "emo" is used less and less. thank goodness.

Thank you. It's good to know not everyone is ignorant.

[macgradiie]

hahahaha..

cool..

[maya11]

This is a rant I had some time ago that I thought I might share with you.

Being emo is a very selfish state of mind and in my opinion there is almost no circumstances that justify it unless you have been brutally raped or something along those lines. Sorry, but your girlfriend/boyfriend breaking up with you is no excuse to act like a fucking depressed retard. Neither is your parents getting divorced, or someone at school calling you ugly. Get over it because it's part of life. If you really feel that you can't take that kind of treatment, do us all a favour and kill yourself now because it will only get harder. Life is tough, start getting used to it.

Speaking of life being tough, watch this clip on YouTube.

If you've watched it, you can see what it means to have a tough life.
These people can't afford fancy hair styles and colours. They can't afford new clothes or shoes. They can't afford anything like that, no school, water or food. Imagine being in their shoes. Don't look at them like they are any different to me and you, because they are not. Imagine being their age and having no Mother or Father, without any idea how to feed their brothers or sisters, let alone themselves.

Don't ever forget that on the other side, the grass is not greener. In fact there is no grass at all. On the other side of the fence, there is nothing but death, fear, pain and injustice.

So instead of feeling so sorry for yourselves, why don't you take a look at your own indulgent lifestyles and try to spare a thought for these children who are dropping like flies every day. Can you even imagine the amount of pain being suffered every second by people all around the world?

Right now as you read this, children are dying. In the time it takes for you to listen to 10 ticks of a clock, 3 children have died. 3 children with names, dreams, feelings and unique personalities. Children that cry the same as us, laugh the same as us, but can only dream of a life on the other side of the fence.

I guess we can only hope that they die peaceful and painless deaths, although the sad fact is, is that most of them will die alone, with nobody to hold them as they slip away. Most likely they will die dusty, tired and hungry, lying next to a sewer or in the corrugated iron shed that they called home.

So every time you feel sorry for yourselves, for whatever reason, just count to 10 and imagine you are the next in the line of children waiting to die.

Makes your life a lot more bearable doesn't it?

[michaelalonzo93]

I don't even know what the fuck emo is anymore, honestly. What are present popular emo bands? The only obviously emo songs I at any time acquired into had been Chloroform Perfume by FATA and Knowledge In A Car Crash by Thursday. Arrive to assume of it, I'm not sure that emo actually truly received anyplace in the very first put. Stand Mixer Attachments
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[zhianzee]

I also don't like them... Ooppsss this is their forum right. LOL :)

[VeTRooTvox]

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[fatbastard]

Why a PM?